Quinn |
I field a lot of questions about why we transitioned our dogs from kibble to raw food. I also get asked about our choice in the type of raw food. Believe me when I say, it wasn’t our first choice, or even our second. It has been an onerous process involving discussions with numerous experts and many hours of research. Quinn. Quinn is the reason. I’ll start at the beginning.
Introduction to obedience and agility |
A German Shepherd is a serious commitment but all dogs are not created equal. It soon became evident that Quinn's energy needed to be managed; that, if given an inch, she was going to run with the whole mile. I needed to step it up if I was going to remain at the top of the pack. She is intelligent, agile and dominant. She needs not one job but several. We were already working with a trainer, we added weekly dog club for socialization and training for both her and me. We have now worked with the breeder and several trainers to introduce Quinn to obedience, agility, scent and protection work.
Fun and Games |
Her first winter, when she was about 8 months old, we noticed she was doing a lot of scratching. While she never scratched herself raw, she continuously licked her paws and scratched everywhere. Our vet indicated Quinn may be prone to allergies, a condition becoming more common in dogs, and that food was often the culprit. He hinted at the dilemma we might find ourselves in; that we could spend a copious amount of time and money trying to treat this condition without ever finding any solid resolution. He suggested we first eliminate as many toxins in the home as we could. He explained that allergies to certain proteins was the most common and to try a limited ingredient kibble. If that didn’t work, perhaps switch to a hydrolyzed kibble, which goes through a process to break the proteins down to particles so tiny that the body can’t distinguish that it’s even a protein. He also had clients that transitioned their itchy dogs to raw, some with great success. We were given a short-term prescription of Vanectyl P to get us over the hump. And it worked, for awhile. And then, once again, we found ourselves living with Itchy Skin Quinn.
So began the purge. While we didn't use a lot of chemicals
in the home, we disposed of traditional cleaning products in favour of nontoxic options. We went from washing her bedding with laundry
soap to nothing more than hot water. We kept the humidity up because our
winters tend to be so very dry. Most of
our furniture was leather; we had no carpets. Our animals were never allowed on
the bed we shared with our own personal contingent of mites, but we took it a step further and banned Quinn from the bedroom. We sanitized her doghouse and kept it as hygienically clean and dust-free as possible. We
groomed daily and wiped her down with a damp cloth to remove dander. We added fish oils and other supplements to her diet. We began feeding a high
quality limited ingredient kibble of lamb and rice. The
scratching continued.
Brother and Sister |
By the time Quinn was a year old, she had received all of her puppy vaccinations and was of a proper age to spay. Because we were intent on having a German Shepherd that was properly socially conditioned, we not only were active in dog club but enrolled her in puppy day care, the latter of which required Quinn to be fully vaccinated and medicated for fleas. We chose Bravecto because we were advised it was safe and provided a full three months of control. What we didn’t anticipate was the lethargy and loss of appetite from it. The vet suggested we follow up with FortiFlora, a probiotic. Within a week, her appetite and high spirits returned. The scratching continued and, this time, with a vengeance.
Our community did not have a dermatological vet, but there was a general vet who specialized in allergies. At our appointment, we were advised that Quinn had
allergies but diagnosing the cause would not be easy. Allergy testing was not recommended as results were inconclusive until she reached 3 years of age. The cause may be environmental but food was the easiest to rule out because it can be controlled. Since a limited ingredient diet didn’t seem to
help, we should try an elimination diet.
We had concerns about hydrolyzed protein kibble; what good could
possibly come from such a highly processed diet? We had access to wild meat. A hunter herself,
she was not opposed to a homemade diet providing the protein was one which
Quinn had never previously consumed.
Together, we settled on a diet of moose, potatoes and Hillary’s Blend, a
supplement providing all of the essential vitamins and minerals and a balanced diet provided one followed the recipe. We had to
continue this diet for a minimum of eight weeks; the longer the better. In addition, biweekly baths using the Chlorhexidine-based
shampoo, Duoxo; regular doses of Dermoscent Spot On and over-the-counter
Loratadine were added to the protocol. Quinn was fast becoming a very high maintenance dog. I began a journal to track
how itchy she was, on a scale from 1 to 10 and noted all treatments. We explored the various over-the-counter and
prescription medications, including apoquel, atopica and cytopoint. After
copious amounts of research, we did not invest in the last three, simply
because none of them appeared to prove effective over the long term, all appeared to have considerable side effects, and they were
costly. We agreed with the vet to abstain from vaccination updates, which tend to stress the
body and aggravate skin conditions.
Winter Adventure |
When we left for our annual three-week vacation in March, 2018, we left Quinn in the hands of a capable dog sitter, armed with a book of instructions and enough homemade dog food, precisely weighed and meted out in single servings, to last a month. A calendar laid out precise scheduling of her medications and baths. The day we arrived home, we were advised that Quinn had, the day before, nibbled a small piece of her ball away and then later threw up a wee bit of blood. We weren’t terribly worried; the piece was miniscule and should easily pass. But, being the doting helicopter parents we are, for the next several days, I followed her through the cold and snow so that I could inspect her pee and poop. What I discovered was that she had diarrhea with a bit of mucous and blood. While I didn’t actually see her vomit, I found a couple of piles that also appeared to contain a bit of blood. We waited a couple of more days; long enough to collect samples, and off to the vet we went.
One of many reasons to crate train |
The original thought was that there was nothing urgent.
Quinn appeared to be in excellent health and superb condition. She was the proper weight; her coat looked great and she was alert and active. We could take a 'wait and see' approach or run tests. We opted for the tests. An ultrasound pointed toward some kind of blockage. It was agreed
that Quinn remain at the clinic, with a follow-up ultrasound at the end of the
day. The call we received late that
afternoon was that Quinn did indeed have a blockage and consent was
needed for surgery. A few hours
later, our vet advised that what was thought to
be a blockage was actually ‘a gelatinous mass of bloody diarrhea’. Deep
chested dogs (which Quinn isn’t) sometimes suffer from intestinal distress
due to bloating. This seemed inconsistent as raw-fed dogs almost never suffer from bloat because it doesn't expand in their stomach in the same way that kibble does. It is not uncommon to
stitch the intestines to the upper abdominal wall to avoid this
life-threatening condition but Quinn was so raw internally, the vet decided
against this procedure. Instead they opted to remove the infection as much as possible and close. Antibiotics and fluids would be administered and Quinn would be
ready for home in a day or so.
A couple of days went by, during which time Quinn continued to wane. While we had supplied the clinic with
her several feedings of her elimination diet, a decision was made to switch
her to hydrolyzed canned food for easier digestion. When her health continued
to decline, she was tested for Parvo, not once but twice. The original stool
and vomit samples had been destroyed without analyzing; the clinic wanted new
ones to test for parasites. They were adamant that there was some other underlying condition that had yet to be discovered. Antibiotics were switched. Always an excellent source of advice and information, I stayed in touch with the breeder who, by this time, was a good friend. She phoned to tell me, if a decision was made to euthanize Quinn, she would give us another puppy free of charge. My heart skipped a beat or two, I began to cry, and told her we weren't 'there' yet. Of course, she knew that; she just wanted me to know. It took much longer than anticipated but
Quinn did eventually begin to recuperate.
Five days and $2,200 later, we took her home.
Finally home |
This vet took the time to explain who he was and what he
did. He is self-described old school, that doesn't always find expensive concoctions yields positive results.
While some of the old drugs do indeed have side effects, one has to weigh not
only the cost but the amount of medication needed to keep Quinn comfortable. He
supplements traditional veterinary medicine with TCVM, which is based on food,
rather than medication. He also augments
his practice with acupuncture. He
suggested a homemade diet consisting of meat, vegetables and grain. The list of appropriate vegetables and
grains, I have since learned are classed as ‘neutral’ or ‘cooling’ foods. While
raw is preferred, it could also be cooked.
While it was best if the ingredients became the entire diet, it could
also be used as a topper. He added the Chinese herbal supplement Si Miao
San. To provide Quinn with some relief
from her discomfort, he prescribed a very low dose of Vanectyl-P. We continued the weekly baths with medicated shampoo to remove any dander or irritating
substances from Quinn’s skin which would give her some temporary relief. He agreed that
we should abstain from vaccination updates.
Agility work |
I had already done a lot of research on feeding raw. I had a grasp of the differing philosophies
between feeding Prey Model Raw (PMR) and Biologically Appropriate Raw (BARF)
with the latter also incorporating a limited amount of vegetables, seeds and
fruit. In general, PMR feeders don’t believe plant matter is appropriate for
carnivores. The diet focuses on whole prey (meat, organs, bone). BARF operates on the belief that dogs are
omnivores or obligate carnivores. Diets consist of muscle meat, organs and
bones, up to 10% fruits and vegetables, sometimes dairy and supplements.
TCVM is based on much the same principles as we humans apply to ourselves; better nutrition will cause our bodies to perform better. Processed foods, sugars, dyes and high
carbohydrates, as found in most commercially prepared foods does not equate
to good health. Certain conditions or diseases produce a lot of heat in the
body, including inflammatory diseases, such as arthritis, diabetes and Cushings
Disease. Certain foods, such as venison, chicken and lamb add heat to the body,
while melon, cold water fish and rabbit have a cooling effect.
Si Miao San is a Chinese formula directed at treating 'damp heat' resulting in inflammation and commonly used for inflammatory bowel disease, allergic
dermatitis, Cushings and diabetes. It also has anti cancer properties and supports
good digestion.
Food Therapy From the Chi Institute |
I have never fully come to the conclusion that Quinn actually has allergies exacerbated by her diet but, rather, I believe she has a gut problem. I think it’s safe to say that she has a weak immune system. The early UTI was our first clue; her reaction to Bravecto was the second. We learned that Quinn’s diet was wrong from the start, which began as a quality lamb and rice kibble supplemented with venison. Both protein choices add heating elements to an already inflamed dog. We were literally piling on fuel for the fire!
Bite work |
We took Quinn on a 35-day RV road trip across Canada in 2018. It was a bit of a challenge preparing her meals at times. We certainly didn’t have freezer capacity to prepare all her meals at home and carry them with us. Instead, we relied on commercially prepared PMR foods which we supplemented with vegetables and grains. We looked for Pet Value stores when it came time for her weekly bath.
Welcome to Nova Scotia! |
Quinn remains a high strung, high energy dog, somewhat prone to anxiety. While she loves people, she doesn’t always play well with other canines. While she is happy to cuddle with a cat, if they run, she gives chase. This aspect continues to be a work in progress. During our travels, we preferred small, municipal campgrounds which were not only sparsely occupied; they came with ball diamonds and lots of open space which lent themselves well for off-leash work to allow Quinn to burn off a little energy. Through Ontario and Quebec in particular, we found ourselves in very large, heavily occupied facilities and, wouldn’t you know it, we almost always were designated a corner lot where everyone would walk their dogs! There are a LOT of people travelling with dogs these days! This required considerably more vigilance on our part and it definitely generated additional stress for our little family of three but we managed the situation. We ultimately put her back on a low dose of Vanectyl-P before returning home. She had two doses of Revolution as we were concerned about Lyme disease (ticks) and didn’t really relish the thought of a trailer full of fleas.
Fast forward to 2020 and we still check Quinn’s poop on a regular basis. We are slightly more lenient with the diet in that we no longer make all of our treats and sometimes we even slip in a bit of raw chicken. Meals are now about 8% cooling/neutral grains and cooling vegetables/fruits has been reduced from 30% to 15%. We do not vaccinate. In the event that we decide we need to, vaccinations will be stretched over several months so as not to overwhelm her system. She is prone to ear infections which we manage through the use of Burrow's Solution. We have used Vanectyl P for short term use on odd occasions.
Bravo and Quinn, Christmas 2019 |
We’ve added another German Shepherd to our pack which has been good for Quinn and us. Bravo may be almost double Quinn's weight but she is the boss. Apparently, that's a common trait of the female gender😀. While Bravo's diet is similar, (about
5% vegetables/fruit and 5% grain), he tends to run on the hot side, so his diet
is also based on neutral and cooling foods.
Our breeders stopped by for a visit earlier this year. I commented that Quinn's intelligence and dexterity better lent itself to a home where someone would do some serious agility work with her, rather than an old couple in their 60s. Our breeder was quick to point out that Quinn landed herself in the right home, one that had the time and financial resources for that deep dive into resolving her health issues. Anyone can see that both dogs are the epitome of good health. I've personally lost 20 lbs and walk up to 5 miles daily. With the exception of run-ins with porcupines, we've managed to keep both dogs away from the vet. We aim to keep it that way.
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ReplyDeleteThanks for taking the time to check out my post. Quinn remains a complicated little girl but we have managed to control her skin issues. Last summer she spiked a fever which our vet addressed with a round of antibiotics. A few weeks later, the fever returned and she had another round of antibiotics. The third time this happened we tested for tick borne diseases which came out negative. We ultimately ended up at Cedarwood Veterinary Clinic with Dr. Dagmar Schouten. She and husband, Dr. Graham Keys, Cedarwoods, Surgeon painstakingly went through Quinn's history (which I continue to document) and eventually reached a diagnosis of disco spondilitis at C7, a complex blood borne infection which may be bacterial or fungal in nature. Treatment was a 12-week course of antibiotics which, fortunately, she responded to. She lost weight during her illness and we were having a lot of problems getting it back on. We finally resorted to adding 1/4c of limited ingredient kibble (no chicken) to her daily rations. While most people wouldn't call her chubby, suffice to say her ribs of disappeared from view and we are now slowly reducing her caloric intake. I haven't quite decided whether I'll retain a bit of kibble in her diet. Thankfully, Bravo is as healthy as a horse! Our biggest issue with him is his insistence on attacking porcupines. . . and you know who ultimately wins that war!
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